Listen, You All Can Have Heart Attacks in the Comments …
October 20th, 2008 by Evil Beet
… but Raven-Symone needs to lose some fucking weight.
I’m sorry.
She’s 22 years old now. She has fully surrendered any immunity she had by being a child. Homegirl is huge and I will point it out if I want to. She was never a tiny adult, and that’s fine, but she’s ballooned recently, and is now treading dangerously close to the territory of obesity. Obesity is not healthy.
Raven, you are a grown woman and a role model for countless young children who are already at a high risk for obesity. Pull your shit together and get to a healthy weight.
And I know you guys are going to jump on me in the comments, but look at it this way: Everyone is so quick to criticize Lindsay Lohan and Britney Spears and Paris Hilton when they go out and snort lines and do shots and drive drunk and otherwise engage in reckless, self-indulgent behavior that is widely recognized by medical science to be dangerous. “What a terrible role model,” we all say. “How awful!”
While I don’t expect everyone in Hollywood to be at Karen Carpenter BMIs, Raven’s weight is also the result of reckless, self-indulgent behavior that is widely recognized by medical science to be dangerous. The whole country insists Lindsay Lohan drag her ass to AA meetings. Why don’t we also clamor for the Ravens of the world to put in a half-hearted appearance at OA? Why is it that overuse of alcohol and drugs is fodder for such social scorn while pointing out the overuse of food is practically treated as hate speech these days?
I’m just saying.
At the premiere of Tinker Bell in LA.
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Wow, I really can’t believe that beet compared being overweight to being a drunken cokewhore. While she very well may eat more than the average person, her being overweight could be linked to a variety of reasons. It could be because of a medication, obesity could run in her family, and yes, she may not exercise as much as she needs to…. but to compare her eating habits to the drinking/partying habits of people like Lohan and Hilton is just too much of a stretch. That’s like saying that every cheeseburger that she eats without exercising the calories off is the same as snorting a line… a little dramatic, don’t you think?
I agree with Raye.
Most Americans really don’t have a sense of what normal weight is.
@ Rachael
For someone who throws around words like “uneducated” you sure make a lot of typos.
I bet ten bucks that all the people who freaked the fuck out are fatter than raven symone is and can’t take the fact that if beet is calling her obese than that means people perceive them as being big fucking fat asses.
…bet you.
Ok look, guys. Raven, in all likelihood, does not have a medical disease which makes her gain weight. She probably just eats a lot. It happens. It happens to me all the time. But I don’t say, oh no, I’m a normal American–Normal Americans are fat. The average woman in America wears a size 12.
I’m not saying everyone has to be a size two (I was a size 18 in high school and am now a size 9) but it is not healthy to be overweight. A normal weight for Raven is probably 120-130 if she’s about 5′6, like me. She’s chubby. Face it.
This could have been avoided if she just had a decently fitting dress instead of that lettuce toga get-up.
I HATE RAVEN.
hate, hate, hate, hate, hate, hate, hate.
i always have. regardless of how fat or skinny she is.
but, all that aside … perhaps it was just a poor choice of dress? that monstrosity is FUG beyond belief, and clearly unflattering.
…. i don’t believe i am defending raven. I HATE HER!!!!!!!
I actually have a bit of a different perspective. As a sugar addict, I only wish my addiction was treated as seriously as a drug or alcohol addiction. Since I gave up sugar and flour, I cannot tell you how many people have tried to get me to “give in” to some temptation. I blogged about this awhile back and realized that society isn’t going to take food addiction as seriously because you can’t get behind the wheel of a car and kill someone after eating a donut.
sarah ashley, I so get your level of hate. She’s your Mischa Barton.
Amen to that.
People she’s only 5′1
She might not look fat to you.
But my Little sister is taller than that and she’s 10.
I’m not hating on her or anything but she needs to realize for her height that might not be healthy.
If I didn’t say it before I agree 100%
I am sorry but it doesn’t take a MD to diagnosis that she is obese. As a former college athlete who under went three back surgeries and gained 50lbs as a result – I have first hand experience with the battle of the bulge. I am 6 ft tall and was classified as obese when I had my weight gain (the gain put me at a size 16). And it is hard to get the weight off but I’d rather a long healthy life (fitting into designer labels, lol) rather than enjoying bad food. So BEET while there are reasons for weight gains in one’s life…I agree that there is no reason to stay that way. If people choose to earn their living by being a actor/actress they are going to have their image judged and should be mindful that young viewers will want to look up to them. Raven has a real opportunity to help young girls if she can get healthy and talk to young girls about the importance of being healthy.
IM 5′5 118LBS, and I work to keep it that way.
I dont sit around like Raven with a cheeseburger up my bunghole and a pizza sliding into my gaping maw daily.
DIET RAVEN
you make me fucking sick you lazy slack-jawed cow.
SHE IS OBESE, and so are you fatty, skip a meal.
Beet. You make me sad. This and a previous post lead me to believe that you personally have an issue with people who are overweight (obese, fat, whatever). That means you have an issue with me, and I’ve lived my entire life having to deal with people who have an issue with me based solely on my weight. I’m not about to voluntarily add more.
You’re funny and you’re obviously intelligent, but you have a long way to go to reach a state of acceptance with yourself that in turn allows you to accept others for just what they are. That’s not a trite statement; you write on this topic with a particular vitriol that makes it very difficult to think otherwise.
I love your writing, but think I can probably find something else out there that doesn’t make me feel like I’m not even good enough to read it.
Off your site, your FB, and your fan list. Damn.
Yo, Bean! Yeah. She *is* near obese. I’d guess she technically is. If I could be considered almost morbidly obese, according to my BMI, then yeah, so could she. The difference? I was pushing 7% body fat, thanks to a *lot* of exercise, at the time. It’s a safe bet she’s packin’ a little more than 7% body fat. Girl does need to get to a healthy weight. And just to make sure you’re aware, a healthy weight isn’t the same thing as being a size 0. She does, however, need to get to something in the vicinity of 20-25% body fat. That’ll likely get her to a healthy weight.
I think and (Names on the comments) are the same person… he/she was too afraid of commenting again since he/she said that wouldn’t come back,, but come on he/she would most likely do it, since it wants who (like me) gave a Fu#@ about what it said… lol
Rachael Says:
October 20th, 2008 at 2:23 pm
You’re kidding, right? Natural DD’s give the impression of the girl being heavy? That sounds like you’re blindfolding yourself. Quite often, being “top-heavy” is symptomatic of being heavier (some girls are lucky enough to be well endowed without being heavier). Symptomatic, as in a result of being heavier, not the cause of looking like you’re heavier. Seriously. Americans as a whole have very little idea of what a healthy weight looks like on a person, and yes, I’m a fan of being healthy. I know I’m not at a healthy weight anymore, and need to lose about 50 pounds. While my BMI would still be high, I’d be in pretty decent shape after losing that weight, which would account for about a 15% decrease in my body fat. And yes, someone like Keira or any of those super skinny girls can probably do with a cheeseburger or two, because there is such a thing as too skinny. If I recall correctly, something along the lines of 15-22% body fat is a pretty healthy percentage for a girl. I’m willing to bet large sums of money that Raven is closer to the 40-45% range. Some people. Blaming being busty on being fat.
I’d be worried about health problems. Hopefully she takes care of herself.
She’s fat. Not chubby, not well-rounded, not pleasingly plump. It is unhealthy and increases her risk of diabetes, high blood pressure and stroke. She’ll never be a size zero, she’s not made for it, but yeah, she ought to get her ass down to a size 12 or 14.
You know I think it’s not really that you say Raven needs to lose weight that we’re taking issue with, it’s that you say she needs to lose some fucking weight. You make it sound like “how dare she be so overweight… but I’m just worried about her health” then you invite us to criticize you for saying so as though “we” are now the bad guys. Maybe you should watch your ‘fucking’ mouth and maybe phrase things in a way that wouldn’t ‘fucking’ want to make us jump down your ‘fucking’ throat. You think?
seriously. the first thing i thought when i saw this picture was, DAMN she got so fat!
cuz she did. she is so young too! it’s not that healthy to be this plump AMERICA! this is why everyone is dying so young. And it IS like being a drug addict… you carrying around all this excess weight will have so many negative repercussions on your overall health!
ugh her body sucks. the proportion is so off.
i don’t give a shit. she’s not 16. people who are thin get made fun of ALL THE TIME but its like okay for some reason. when you’re thin, you get really sick of people always talking about it. But, I can’t call a fat girl fat? WHATEVER
being called fat when you’re a kid is one thing, but she is a full-fledged adult. maybe people calling her fat will help her get healthier. who knows.
whatever. GO ON BEET. i totally agree.
and if u people don’t think she looks obese, you may want to check your own BMIs. Being obese does not equal weighing 300 lbs. It’s not THAT FAT.
Word. I’m a fat chick myself, but she wears clothes that do NOT favor her tubbiness. She either needs to reign it in and go on a diet, or find a new personal shopper. (Though, she always creeps me out, anyway. Her eyebrows, her inability to act, etc.)
Um. Wow. By driving drunk, people can kill themselves and other people. By becoming obese, people can kill themselves.
Sometimes you seem very, very young. Like when you suggested all Americans living under the poverty level just dropped out of highschool or failed to attend college because they were lazy.
You should volunteer in your community. Listen to the stories. It will make you a better – and an even smarter – person.
Bean- yeah you’re a flaming ‘tard. A BMI of over 25 is regarded as obese. I guarantee she has a BMI of over 25 I can tell by looking at her. I’m a med student I know these things
Secondly, if she was on meds that made her balloon, she should still be encouraged to lose weight because it’s not healthy to be be obese, or even close to it. She’ll only get bigger if she doesn’t watch herself
Thirdly, if a ’skinny’ girl was up here, the people defending her would be accused of having eating disorders. This girl is big. Get the fuck over it. I know better than everyone here saying she doesn’t need to lose weight. Of COURSE she does; she’s risking getting diabetes and heart disease and a lot of other serious conditions if she doesn’t. A healthy BMI is between 20 and 25 and anything above or below that is potentially dangerous
oh yeah. totally too- her eyebrows are ridic. what is that?
and that dress could not be worse on her for her shape.
@ ew and others—
yeah but this is article after article about anorexic girls. it’s SO acceptable to be all gross mary kate!! eat a sandwich!!!! but it’s not okay to call a fat girl fat?
both disorders can really really affect your health.. and if you take out other things that affect other people (like driving drunk) and just think about BEING an alchie– well that’s so similar to being fat. you are making poor, unhealthy decisions that will have negative effects on you.
whatever. If people weren’t so weird about calling out people for being fat, maybe America wouldn’t be so damn hefty.
Come on, the girl got huge. Disney dropped her show after they wanted her to slim down, she fought back saying what’s wrong with a full figured role model; Disney won! No show, no role model. No Cheetah Girl $$.
i didnt read all the comments, but raven did a myspace blog about her weight and eyebrows…
eyebrows-genetic
weight-cheating boyfriend
lmao.. I couldn’t get thru all those posts. but damn, all the fatties came out in her defense, BEET. why is it that fat chicks try to act like they chose to be BBW’s and they’re fabulous and all this other denial crap. if you’re fat, YOUR’RE FAT.. maybe if you put the twinkes down and pick up some weights you wouldn’t have to burn calories by calling Beet a cunt. I bet even typing makes these fat chicks sweat
i would like to point out that she has cellulite on her arms…do you know how hard it is to have cellulite on your fucking arms…and the reason just her arms look big is because you know she has about 10 pairs of spanx on holding her gut in…you guys shouldn’t criticize Beet because at raven’s age she shouldn’t be that big and have arms that fat and flabby. and she is a role model for children and they should have truly healthy role models…not too thin but not too fat and they should be in shape and have muscles. thats what a healthy woman looks like.
Girlfriend loves her Mallomars,
so what?
Do you people even know the definition of obese? Look it up and you’ll see that calling her “close to the territory of obesity” is putting it mildly. The problem is many words like obese, cripple, retarded, etc. have become bad words.
George Carlin had a brilliant bit about this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h67k9eEw9AY
That being said, with most Americans being overweight, it might not be a good idea making negative comments that at least half of your readership will feel hit a little to close tome.
I think she’s tiny. I think tinker bell put on some weight.
I’m fine with her weight… I’m not fine with the fact that she’s a bitch… I don’t like her, not cuz she is fat…
Her being overweight may not hurt you directly, but it affects any fans who see her as a role model. In the similar sense that looking up to an anorexic starlet might negatively affect the mentality, eating habits, and overall health of a young adult, especially a female, so can looking up to an overweight starlet.
Recently, there has been this “fat pride” thing catching fire in America, and it almost says to me, It’s cool to be unhealthy, it’s cool to eat cheeseburgers chocked full of trans fats and oils and unnatural amounts of grease, and it’s okay to look like a tub of lard because you enjoy cheeseburgers so much.
NOT okay. Web domains have taken so much care to shut down pro-anorexia sites. But no one seems to see how equally unhealthy it is to encourage the American youth to embrace a lifestyle of eating fatty, over-processed foods and sitting on the couch all day if you are overweight.
No unhealthy habits should be encouraged, including being overweight (and underweight as well, really).
For those railing into this website for speaking out against obesity, remember that you no longer have the right to speak out against being underweight, either.
- me Says:
October 20th, 2008 at 4:14 pm
lmao.. I couldn’t get thru all those posts. but damn, all the fatties came out in her defense, BEET. why is it that fat chicks try to act like they chose to be BBW’s and they’re fabulous and all this other denial crap. if you’re fat, YOUR’RE FAT.. maybe if you put the twinkes down and pick up some weights you wouldn’t have to burn calories by calling Beet a cunt. I bet even typing makes these fat chicks sweat
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Can someone be THAT ignorant? Sweetie, its not about being fat! Its about comparing OBESITY with DUI!
And just because you assumed that the people who are defending Raven are fat, I’d say you are.
(oh, and before you start calling me fat, I’m a very athletic
(finishing the previous post)
- me Says:
October 20th, 2008 at 4:14 pm
lmao.. I couldn’t get thru all those posts. but damn, all the fatties came out in her defense, BEET. why is it that fat chicks try to act like they chose to be BBW’s and they’re fabulous and all this other denial crap. if you’re fat, YOUR’RE FAT.. maybe if you put the twinkes down and pick up some weights you wouldn’t have to burn calories by calling Beet a cunt. I bet even typing makes these fat chicks sweat
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Can someone be THAT ignorant? Sweetie, its not about being fat! Its about comparing OBESITY with DUI!
And just because you assumed that the people who are defending Raven are fat, I’d say you are.
(oh, and before you start calling me fat, I’m a very athletic handball player… just to you know!)
She is a fat ass.
i think she is way to FAT and way to confortable in that dress. it doesnt suit her. In reguard to Beet’s comment about obesity.
I can SEE where you’re getting at and she also looks short for her weigh, which means she pretty much Obese in my book.
One question to the readers who disagree, when was the last time you went to the gym. i rest my case
she looks fine, beet…. she just needs to wear a different dress.
Camera ads 10 pounds, plus we’re used to seeing skinny minnys up on parade, so she’s bound to look shockingly bigger
Shes probably only mildly overweight.
And in an ugly dress.
Shut yer pie hole Simon…..cause you’re a ftty (and you overact)
um, fatty
Why isn’t there a post about that fat bitch from Hairspray? If anyone needs to lose weight it’s her… look at her arms compared to Raven’s… Raven would look like a twig.
I guess you’re perfect. HARDLY!!!!!!! And she is NOT huge! You’re pathetic.
i cant say that Raven is boderline obese, bc she doesnt look it. what i can say is that she doesnt look healthy and she could hopefully find the routine she needs to get her to healthier body. what i do know, as a person who has all my life been very naturally thin, is that our society is cruel and at times extremely hypocritical of others when it comes to weight issues. i cannot count how many times in my life an overweight person has whispered about my weight in a store, called me anorexic, or looked down on me. you know what that is called? Jealousy. i agree with Beet on one thing, it is not okay for us to call people out for one thing and not another. you cannot be ordering the whole left hand side of mcdonalds menu with a diet coke and then come to call some skinny girl “sick” or “anorexic”, if they are not. anorexia is a disease that no one should be accused of having. when will it be okay for me to call some fat ass pig, a fat ass pig???? obesity is a disease also. wheres the line when it comes to weight? the answer is: people should mind their own business. if you want to be fat and happy and possibly unhealthy, then you go ahead and do your thing boo-boo. if you want to live your life in a gym, good for you, do what makes you happy.
Well, Beet, you certainly have stirred up some intelligent discourse here. [/sarcasm]
BEET! BEET!! FOLLOW UP!! She wrote a blog about her crunk eyebrows and about being a fatty!!! GET ON THAT SHIT!!!!!
dlisted did a post on it…. I think Raven reads Evilbeet!
and yeah, if you are gaining a shit ton of weight because you’re ’stressed out’ and your ‘bf cheated on you’…… UM UNHEALTHY.
so hush up, you thyroid people! she is just fat from eaaaaating
hahaha. i agree with you 100% beet. honestly, anyone who says she isnt fat, and is calling you names and shit is obviously overweight, or struggling with weight themselves. Back the fuck off. Those of you who are trying to defend raven. You are the reason obesity even exists in this country. get off your lazy asses, and go work the fuck out. its not that fucking hard. OR just go cram another dognut in your mouth and gain another 15 pounds and continue to defend the fat people of america. over 60% of americans are obese. and you all are the reason why.
I agee. raven needs to work the fuck out.
Really, beet – you quit your job as a software engineer to make petty comments on 20 year olds’ physical appearances? i’m sure she is unaware that she is not looking her best. Anyway, the important thing is you have found your niche. Oprah would be proud