Listen, You All Can Have Heart Attacks in the Comments …
October 20th, 2008 by Evil Beet
… but Raven-Symone needs to lose some fucking weight.
I’m sorry.
She’s 22 years old now. She has fully surrendered any immunity she had by being a child. Homegirl is huge and I will point it out if I want to. She was never a tiny adult, and that’s fine, but she’s ballooned recently, and is now treading dangerously close to the territory of obesity. Obesity is not healthy.
Raven, you are a grown woman and a role model for countless young children who are already at a high risk for obesity. Pull your shit together and get to a healthy weight.
And I know you guys are going to jump on me in the comments, but look at it this way: Everyone is so quick to criticize Lindsay Lohan and Britney Spears and Paris Hilton when they go out and snort lines and do shots and drive drunk and otherwise engage in reckless, self-indulgent behavior that is widely recognized by medical science to be dangerous. “What a terrible role model,” we all say. “How awful!”
While I don’t expect everyone in Hollywood to be at Karen Carpenter BMIs, Raven’s weight is also the result of reckless, self-indulgent behavior that is widely recognized by medical science to be dangerous. The whole country insists Lindsay Lohan drag her ass to AA meetings. Why don’t we also clamor for the Ravens of the world to put in a half-hearted appearance at OA? Why is it that overuse of alcohol and drugs is fodder for such social scorn while pointing out the overuse of food is practically treated as hate speech these days?
I’m just saying.
At the premiere of Tinker Bell in LA.
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PS for her to meet the medical definition of obesity for her height (5′ 3″) whe would have to be 180 lbs, which she clearly is not
raven’s a big girl, but she doesn’t look obese, yet. maybe she should tone up her arms, and wear a more flattering dress
People that think she is a “healthy” weight need to get a reality check. That is not a healthy weight. Maybe if she lost about 10-15 pounds would equal to a healthy weight.
Beet is absolutely right.
And I dont think super skinny girls like Nicky Hilton or Lindsay Lohan are healthy. They look disgusting.
Why is that so hard for you people to admit that Raven is over a healthy weight? Maybe if you stop eating all those cheeseburgers, you’d stop being in denial.
OK, well here’s an actual doctor “weighing” in on this subject to shut you all up. She’s overweight. She’s short and clearly over 150lbs making her OVERWEIGHT.. not obese. Oh and FYI, “bad genes/throid problems” are just an excuse that people use to make themselves a victim in the situation, to remove themselves from fault. A genetic predisposition to gain weight does not mean that you will automatically end up obese. It means that you may need to exert more effort to maintain a healthy weight (ie: healthy eating and exercise). “Thyroid problems” are only ever a problem if untreated and in a case of hypothyroidism she would have been treated because side effects are substantial (extreme fatigue). Once on a treatment like thyroxin her levels would normalize and she would be fine and able to maintain a healthy weight like anyone else.
whatever, she is not at the level that is medically clearly unhealthy, clearly “obese”. Do I think she looks great? no. Would I freak out and start working out at that weight, especially as an actess, yes. But this whole (somewhat legitimate) rationale of associating weight with bad health (again, not at this weight unless we are all circus people and can say she weighs over 180) just allows people to make mean comments and associate weight with laziness, etc. I think far more celebrites smoke and tan and get away with it although those are clearly horrible for health, and in the case of tanning, have nothing to do with self-discipline
I’m about Raven’s height. I used to be about her size. And I was OBESE. My knees hurt and my back ached, and when I would lie down, I’d feel like I was choking- at that weight. Yeah, I got fat genes from my parents. But I got vegetables and a gym membership from myself, and I no longer look like Raven.
actually, if she is 5′2” 1/2, like I keep reading everywhere, she’d only have to be like 167 or so to be considered obese… just a BMI of over 30. I swear to god, she has to be over this. my good friend is pretty short, like 5′2” and weighs 160ish… and looks WAY thinner than Raven
I like how the “actual doctor” first spelled thyroid wrong… hehehe
Raven is overweight, but not obese. If that’s how she wants to look, I guess that’s her decision.
On a different note, Raven’s show is annoying as hell. What is up with the outfits she wears…bedazzled denim pantsuits haven’t been fashionable in YEARS…if ever.
omg thatlisa i was laughing at that too.
also, hush up she is just fat from eaaaating. lol.
:)
Wow Beet, you were not kidding……..I think right now there were about 107 comments and I am sure there will be more.
I have been reading your blog for a while and have never seen this many comments on any post! Is this the most ever?
Remember back when everyone would argue on your political posts? Those comments were way enjoyable to read. These comments? Not so much. The girl’s fat, end of story.
schmillian:
Do a site search for “John and Kate” and you’ll get your answer. Just be prepared to turn off your brain if you dare to wade into the comments.
I lliked that comment so im going to re-post it and hope that people actually READ it instead of commenting braindead shit like “omg lolz” or “omgomgomgomg you are fat, your mom is fat and your dad is fat LOL”. when you, infact know nothing about me or the other who’s commented.
A different point of view does not make you fat. Period.
I don’t think she is “obeseâ€.
It’s one thing to talk about someone’s bad habits and bad choices, but when we don’t know the cause for her weight and what her overall health is - I just don’t think its anyone’s place to say.
This is such an obnoxious obsession: stick-thin figures are being told to “eat a burgerâ€, while overweight women are being told “pull your shit togetherâ€.
Teach your children that perfection does not exist, to play outside, to eat their veggies and fruits and to find role models in people that they can touch.
Holy shit! All these comments just for Ravyn Whatsername, ’cause she got called out for being borderline obese? Which she is? Good grief, some people are miiiighty sensitive and touchy about fatness. I mean, calling this blog’s writer a “cunt” for coming out and quite bluntly speaking the frank truth, is laughable and pathetic. Put down the “C” word, you hyper-sensitive fatties. The girl IS overweight, and she DOES look borderline obese, and that is NOT healthy, nor is it O.K., much like starving oneself or living off diet pills or turning yourself into a bulimic to be rail-thin is NOT O.K. Yeah, it’s fine to harp endlessly and at great length on all the skinny celebrities out there, but god fucking forbid any one of us ever pipe up and call an obviously fat girl “fat.” What?? Double standards make my blood boil.
I’m just bowled over by the ferocity and the seething bitterness of some of the comments here in response to a frank statement of simple, obvious truth. The young lady is well overweight, in other words, FAT. And not in an appealing or attractive way. This goes beyond “thick,” there, Ravyn.
Don’t worry Beet, most of them are probably just bitter since they’re even bigger than her :P
She is definitely fat, end of.
She is not obese.
It is one thing to talk about someone’s bad habits and bad choices, but when we don’t know the cause for her weight and what her overall health is - I just don’t think its anyone’s place to say.
This is such an obnoxious obsession: stick-thin figures are being told to “eat a burgerâ€, while overweight women are being told “pull your shit togetherâ€.
Teach your children that perfection does not exist, to play outside, to eat their veggies and fruits and to find role models in people that they can touch.
i think if youre going to attack someone for being fat, it should be the women who are insanely obese but parading around the “big is beautiful” mantra. Someone like Monique, because that’s just unhealthy. Yes, she is overweight, but i agree that until you understand why, it’s not right to judge. There are numerous medical excuses for gaining weight. That makes your drug comparison kind of weak, because there’s no medical excuse for binging on coke.
For someone complaining about their round tummy, i’d think you’d be a bit more understanding of someone who has a hard to change body type. Some people work out and diet, and still can’t get to be thin. It’s just who they are. I’m not saying she is dieting or whatever, but unless you’ve seen her sit on her ass all day, you don’t either.
And if you want to voice your concern over how large she is, it shouldn’t be a personal attack, and mean spirited. You wouldn’t attack a drug addict because of your concern, would you? Because with the way you handle your concern of her weight gain, i’d hate to see you at any intervention. Just saying.
One thing ihere is obvious to me. Calling someone fat will get you an intense amount of of comments on your blog. Duly noted.
I’m just saying.
I love how judgemental we all are deep inside.
Seriously, who gives a shit. Everyone is fat. And the ones who aren’t are skinny. I really don’t think Raven should be subjected to such harsh criticism… “Oh she is obligated to lose wait, she is a role model.”
Let’s go into every elementary school across the world and fire all the teachers who have unhealthy BMIs since clearly they are bad role models for our children. Right.
News flash, we live in a big bad world full of lots of scary shit and bad influences and you know what? The size of Raven’s ass really doesn’t rank high on my list of things to be concerned about.
Not a single one of us is justified in getting up on our high horse and judging her like this. Her body is hers and if she wants to lose or gain weight that’s her prerogative and her business.
Maybe we should all take a second to reflect on ourselves. Just sayin’.
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Actually, she’d have to weight 170 to be obese (30.1 BMI, where 30+ is obese), and my wife got up to 170 when she was pregnant, and, even figuring the camera adds pounds, Raven looks a *lot* bigger than my wife when she was pregnant.
And people, I know we’re all harping on BMI, myself included, but let’s also remember healthy and fit people can have wacky BMIs due to how much muscle mass they have. Girl needs to cut down her body fat. I don’t care what she weighs, just get into decent shape.
And before anyone says anything about how I must be skinny to be so happily commenting that I think Raven needs to lose weight, I’m well aware I need to shed some pounds, but even getting down to 225, which is my goal, my BMI would say that I’m obese, but I’d probably be in the neighborhood of 25% body fat, which isn’t great, but is reasonably fit. But hey, I’ve lost 10 pounds in the past 10 weeks, just be eating smarter. It’s not that hard to go for medium fries instead of super sizing them, or skipping that 44 ounce soda, and drinking tea or water instead. That’s all I’ve done. I’ve got two young kids (both are still toddlers), a wife, and a full-time job, and after work, I don’t have time to do much besides get my girls fed, bathed and in bed. If I can do it, she sure as hell can.
Driving drunk causes unsuspecting and innocent families to be murdered. Being obese doesn’t harm anyone else but yourself. Big difference.
She doesn’t need to lose weight. She just needs to grow taller!
Beet, what you said was quite right.
I hate how everyone is so quick to jump on girls who lose weight, but tread a lot softer on commenting on someone who is overweight.
Both are unhealthy, and that’s the bottom line.
Aw man. I used to like swinging by this sight occasionally. Judging her health based on her appearance? What are you her doctor? OMG How DARE a role model be…average sized. Equating eating with coke and drunk driving? Seriously?
This post makes you sound ignorant and hateful and that’s too bad.
Hey roni,
She’s not average. I’m average, she’s OBESE.
I TOTALLY AGREE;
Sorry to the others who are saying: “shes not fucking obese”…etc. But comon, she cannot commit herself to a gym membership, or go for a jog in the morning? Theres no excuse for that weight. Yeah, I think all the people commenting about her being skinny, are probably quite fat themselves because comon, theres no excuse, they should get a gym memership too.
JUST SAYING. :D
oh, wow. what an original and enlightened thought, evil beet! wow, how compassionate of you to think of all the girls out there who are being brainwashed into thinking that they DON”T need a stick figure.
UGHHHHHHHH. this kind of shit disgusts me so much.
YOU CAN NOT KNOW THE HEALTH OF A PERSON BY THEIR SIZE.
i know you have been fed all of the usual fat-hatred propaganda that has led you to this ignorant statement you have made. seriously, you need to know that it is propaganda and you have bought right in. you have been brainwashed.
ARE YOU TELLING ME THAT THESE BONY, EMACIATED, STARVING WOMEN SHOULD BE ROLE MODELS FOR CHILDREN?
are you out of your mind? do you think that shit is healthy? do not be ignnorant. EDUCATE yourself on this issue because all of the studies right now that are not sponsored by the diet industry are telling us that you can absolutely be overweight and healthy- it depends on your lifestyle habits, NOT your pounds.
please, for the love of god, and all of humanity, educate yourselves:
An article from Scientific American:
http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=obesity-an-overblown-epid&page=6
Wow! Kind of harsh. It’s your blog and you can say as many ‘mean’ things as you would like, but your really channeling Perez on this post.
Hey Beet, you have weight issues, too….and some ugly issues. You are pathetic.
She’s obese people…and the people on here that say she isnt are probably fatter than she is and take offense. Get a grip….she’s a role model in the spotlight and while she doesnt need to get down to a single digit size…she still needs to promote heathier living. End of story.
hello raven you have relly let your self go . and not to be rude but i went to your concert and you looked skinny but know you look like A BIG FAT ASS PIG YOU FAGET BLOWHOLE
sorry i didnt say that my big mean older sister wrote that
She needs to lose weight! sh elooks 50 pounds over weight, which means that she is obese! I have suffered from a weight problem for 5 years, I was 60 ounds over weight after I graduated from college! I dedicated mself to complete health and a high fiber diet! I went for a 16 to a 7 people in 9 months! It’s very possible for her to change her life around. i still prefer to those nasty yound girls in hollywood at the moment because she’s not nasty with it! I think she is very pretty, but she could do something about her weight! i had my son two years ago, and I was back to 7 in 6 months!
I think the point is..
She’s obviously a bit overweight, and the fact that she’s in the public eye means that to some extent she’s a role model for other people. All those chicks who are stick thin are doing just as much damage to the kids who look up to them. These two issues are EXACTLY THE SAME.
However. I think it’s questionnable as to whether this woman would be labelled ‘obese’ if she wasn’t a celebrity, if she was just a plain old 22 year old living her life. She’s not hugely obese. She’s not a healthy weight. She’s not perfect. And until she is, she is going to get slated for being a poor role model to others. And I think that is something celebrities learn to take in their stride when they choose to be in the public eye.
Let’s just hope - if she really is unhealthy - that she gets her act together. For her own sake as much as anyone else’s
Well the dress is inflattering which makes her look wider and makes here head look small. I’m just proud of her for not getting prego yet or getting a bunch of DUI’s.
a i’ll fuck the hell outta raven symone big or small she mad pretty