Comments on: Tyler Perry Makes Oprah Cry

By: keightlynn

keightlynn — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 15:18:34 +0000

@ qqk-
I am a third generation Swiss in America on one side of my family- many of my ancestors were Mennonite, and therefore my ancestors had nothing to do with slavery, beatings, ect.
I am also Cherokee on the other side, I have cousins who are going to college for free because they are just slightly more Indian than me. I could really get on the band wagon of the Indians saying that my people had there land taken away, and blahblahblah, but I don’t because I don’t think it’s right to bring up the past to the present situations. What’s done is done. Whole societies have been put into slavery, and hardship, that is the way history has worked, sad as it may be. Even if I had the chance to get this grant, I wouldn’t take it because MY land wasn’t taken away, my ancestors was.
I don’t see it as a hardship, I was just stating that prejudice goes both ways. It’s both sides fault for not trying see past color.
Again, I wanted to help the man out, not because of the color of his skin, but because if his story was true, I know if I was in his shoes, that would really suck. We gave him the gas card because he has to spend that on gas. And two dollars in cash wont do him anything but buy him a candy bar.

@ ribbet
I completely agree with you.

“when in our culture, will we be able to break down a personâ€™s actions and attribute them solely to the individual: good, bad or indifferent?”

I really don’t think this will ever happen, as long as people keep bringing up the past. :/

By: rhoniluv

rhoniluv — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 14:58:59 +0000

Geez. Poor Sidney Portier is thinking â€œcanâ€™t she grow a penis for one night and just suck it up!â€ U just canâ€™t invite her somewhere without all the tears and blubbery. Someone should take Pork-â€™Oâ€™ and inform her this night is about Tyler Perryâ€™s great achievement and not every moment is about her & her FEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLINNNGS.

She can blubber on about his achievements when she invites him on her show and tries to exploit him for her evil purposes (i.e. da bedroom).
Run, Tyler, Run!
Uhâ€¦yes I am still PMSing just a lilâ€™ bit. But seriously Tyler, run. It’s a trap!

By: ribbet

ribbet — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 03:38:23 +0000

rhetorical questions don’t know if there is really answer for any of these. i don’t purport to have any answers but when i read discussions like the one we have going here, i’m left with several questions.

what are the appropriate reparations to be made to the african american culture in this day and age for the sins committed against their ancestors?

when will people’s choices be their own and not a result of the societal subjugation their ancestors experienced? i’m not just talking about african americans with this question although this discussion made me think about it. (i grew up in a predominantly jewish community and the holocaust for many people there is still a realistic threat today.)

when in our culture, will we be able to break down a person’s actions and attribute them solely to the individual: good, bad or indifferent?

for me that last question should be applied to the corporations, insurance companies and governmental leadership that has lead us into our present economic crisis. i don’t see any individual accountability in our culture at any level whether it is an individual, group or company. and yet, our family has made good choices: we didn’t borrow past our means; we didn’t make risky financial choices; we monitored our banks and savings vehicles; we pay our taxes; we teach our kids responsibility and accountability and yet we will now have to suck it up and pay for the, in my mind, criminal actions of others’ greed and stupidity. (wow, i’m bitter and this is the wrong thread – back on track.)

in the u.s.a. today, it is deemed perfectly acceptable for any minority to establish a support group or lobbying interest. what happens in several years in california, for example, when the latino population becomes the overt majority population in the state? will they’re lobbying groups be considered overtly racist or unnecessary?

imho, keightlynn and her party did the appropriate thing. they attempted to help a person, regardless of his color, with a difficult situation. she didn’t run when a person of color approached her; she offered what assistance she could at the time.

my last questions for the evening are: what if even though she had the means to help him, she had refused to do so? would that gentleman have called her racist? would he have assumed the only reason she refused to help him was the color of his skin?

By: quirkygirlkitten

quirkygirlkitten — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 00:26:25 +0000

@ keightlynn: of course prejudice goes both ways, but the black culture has had the denial of basic human rights at the hands of the white culture. we as white people cannot say the same, although as women we certainly understand violence at the hands of men. do you honestly think your little macaroni garden story is equal to the story of emmitt till? i grew up in the south (south carolina and louisiana) and i understand what it feels like to be the only white person living on my block, etc. but instead of seeing it as a hardship i saw it as a chance to experience another culture and got a lot out of it. maybe you should try to look at it that way too. and also? you should probably stop giving money to strangers, no matter what color they are.

By: indigo

indigo — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 23:46:25 +0000

Racism is, unfortunately alive and well in every aspect of our lives and will never really go away. Think about it, jocks/nerds, men/women, rich/poor, black/white and so on and so forth. Cohesiveness has to begin at a personal level by being accepting of people and ways of life that are different than to what you are accustom to. We could all stand to be a little more accepting, well, except of course for censorthis. I donâ€™t think he wants to be accepted. ;)

By: keightlynn

keightlynn — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 23:01:14 +0000

@qqk

My point is, racism happens both ways. But if your white, it’s not taken seriously.

By: quirkygirlkitten

quirkygirlkitten — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 18:31:15 +0000

keightlynn: the point of your story is what? that you and your husband were scammed? would it have been better for you if the guy were white?

By: keightlynn

keightlynn — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 14:51:16 +0000

“A lot of them also choose athletes over regular students.”

I 100% agree with you here.

By: purplemonkeypaws

purplemonkeypaws — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 14:45:46 +0000

for example, my first year Philosophy class we had to argue either for or against abortion as an assignment.
One of my classmates, also happened to be on the schools hockey team, ad he wasn’t the brightest crayon in the box to begin with.
His argument? He said, “I’m not a chick so I really don’t care” and that was it, one phrase, I mean it could have been a great point, if he at least thought about it, and backed it up! ugh, anyway….

By: censorthis

censorthis — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 14:40:52 +0000

re; tigerlillie

what made you think i was black? everyone knows i’m asian.

By: purplemonkeypaws

purplemonkeypaws — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 14:39:50 +0000

@ keightlynn

Well, that’s a different story, when I read the first one, it sounded like he was trying to give you a compliment. Like “you’re a pretty white girl” when you add the “for a white girl”…yeah that would kinda rub me the wrong way.

And yeah universities shouldn’t base the student body on sex/race/religion, but a lot of them still do in their own sneaky ways. A lot of them also choose athletes over regular students.

By: keightlynn

keightlynn — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 14:24:31 +0000

Sorry, I didn’t mean for that to be that long… :/