Why It Doesn’t Matter That Sarah Palin’s an Idiot
September 11th, 2008 by Evil Beet
Hey, have you seen the video of Charlie Gibson interviewing VP candidate Sarah Palin?
No?
You can watch it here.
And, like, yes, it is painfully obvious that this woman is laughably unqualified to run the United States. Charlie Gibson asks her about the Bush Doctrine, codified in 2002, and she clearly has no idea what he’s talking about, and he rubs that in. He uses big words like “existential” and “hubris” and she clearly has no idea what those words mean, although she does a decent job of interpreting them in context. Charlie pronounces “nuclear” correctly repeatedly, highlighting the fact that she pronounces it incorrectly, repeatedly, and jesusfuckingchrist wasn’t the whole point of this election to get someone — anyone — in office who could correctly pronounce the word “nuclear”?? She’s never met a foreign head of state, but mentions that you can actually see Russia from some parts of Alaska, so that’s kind of the same thing, right? It just goes on and on. She has absolutely no grasp on the history of U.S. foreign policy. It’s worse than I expected, honestly. It’s horrible. I mean, it’s horrible.
And it occurs to me that it doesn’t matter.
It’s not news to me that Sarah Palin knows nothing about foreign affairs. And it’s not news to John McCain.
Here’s the thing: I’m kind of a bitch. And, every now and then, I run into somebody very stupid and painfully uneducated who disagrees with me about something. And, most of the time, I let it slide and move on because I just have better things to do than argue with uneducated, irrational people. But sometimes I’m just in a bad mood for whatever reason, and looking to make someone else feel like a total idiot, and so that’s what I do. I leverage the fact that I have a ton of first-rate education and training in logic to argue that perfectly nice person into a corner and make them look like an absolute fool, and when they’re on the floor and bruised and beating and coughing up blood, I kick them some more. And then some more. Because I’m a grumpy bitch and I’m gonna take it out on them. And when I do that, a funny thing happens. My friends — who I know agree with my side of the argument in theory — start to side with the other person. Because it’s painful to watch an innocent, simple, poorly educated nice person get ripped to shreds intellectually, and you feel obliged to defend that person.
Charles Gibson went to Princeton University, and currently serves on their Board of Trustees.
Sarah Palin attended a series of small colleges in Idaho, eventually managing to graduate from the University of Idaho.
Whose education sounds more like yours?
If the remainder of this election is going to consist of Ivy-educated old men making Sarah Palin look like a fool, you can just go ahead and hand John McCain the keys to the White House. Because it doesn’t matter that she’s a fucking idiot. It doesn’t matter in the Gibson interviews and it won’t matter in the VP debate. She’s a fucking idiot with five kids and a sweet, young face and she’s trying really hard and she loves America and don’t you dare act all high and mighty on her just because you went to some fancy school and got some fancy education and know all these facts and statistics and things because there is more to a person than just how many silly facts they can pull out of their ass.
It does not matter that Sarah Palin is a moron. As long as these fancy-pants old men keep making her look like a moron, she’s going to win over voters. They may not quite know why, but they’ll find themselves rooting for her. Could this approach ever work with Hillary? No, it could not. Because Hillary Clinton is competent. Would it work on a male VP candidate who was equally ill-informed? No. We expect men to be competent.
The selection of Sarah Palin as VP candidate has absolutely nothing to do with feminism. It’s just the opposite. It’s about playing on our natural inclination to expect less from women. It’s gross, it grows increasingly infuriating to me as time passes, and, also, it’s working.
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T.P. is upset because, when he came to this country, he thought if he worked hard he could have everything he wanted. Then he learned about minimum wage, anti-child labor laws, and the abolition of slavery.
Of course, in T.P.’s ideal world, if a slave worked hard enough, he could buy his own freedom. Lazy slave!
Wow – ya’ll are still over here fighting this out?
J@K that argument registers about 78 on the standard IQ test :)
SMILER YOU RULE!
@singlepole..so predictable…can’t argue with logic resort to the racist.biggot accusation you are a pathetic liberal!
@ Indigo just for you HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
@ dinosaurus apparently you had some retarded family members and freinds as 3 of them got hit by a train….and they weren’t wasted..
@ TSS I’ll drink to you too
All of you must admit that you are enjoing these exchanges:)
@eyes of green are you a souhern belle?
why yes, TP, I am indeed.
and the evil laugh should be BWAH-HA HA HA…or at least mine is.
And that is not nice to say to Dino about her family…argue politics but please don’t get that personal. My first husband’s father was killed by a train, he wasn’t driving the car they were in, I don’t know all the details all I know is it must be terrifying to see that thing coming at you. Have an ounce of compassion…kay? Don’t give us Rep’s a bad image! :)
Ahhh, Dino, you dissapointed me with that one :( No need for us to drag retarded babies into it.
Eyes of Green, you are worlds different from T.P. I would never in a million years lump you two together just because you may be voting for the same person! Just want to make sure you know you are respected on here by a bunch of us on the left. That T.P. nutjob, however, not so much…
And Indigo- I was just repeating one of T.P.’s more outrageous statements. Read his earlier post. He says we hate her because she has a retarded baby and we could never do that, or some such nonsense. That one just stood out to me because a) it wasn’t as incoherent as some of his other ramblings and b) what????
Ohhhhh, I get it, my bad. I should have known better! :)
I’m rolling over in my grave!
I thought I was crystal clear when I stated my position?
“Look not what your Country can do for you, but what You can do for your Country!”.
What has happened to my party!? I am so ashamed!!
I just want to say to Indigo, Dinosaurs, and jk that I’m honestly flattered that TP has included me in your company with his latest spew. I’m not much for posting in general, but you guys seem like really bright, decent, thoughtful folks. Same goes for you, Eyes of Green.
@TPaine: I can’t speak for anyone else, but I get no enjoyment whatsoever from my exchanges with you. It has nothing to do with your opinions, which may actually be valid, but they’re impossible to get to. You are callous and rude, you insult the disabled and the deceased, you go way over the line with nasty language, and you apparently embellish (or fabricate) autobiographic data in order to score points. So nobody’s actually looking to you for substance any longer — you’ve become the literary equivalent of a guy walking down the street muttering to himself.
Anyway, this is what I view as the bottom line regarding the original thread — look at the polls and listen to the experts, including the questionable experts. Sarah Palin has proven to be a poor choice as a vice-presidential candidate for many of the reasons that Beet outlines way back at the top. Even if one agrees with some of Governor Palin’s statements and/or principles, she was chosen for political reasons and she has become a political liability. Whether we are Republicans or Democrats — or Independents, like me — perhaps this can serve as a life lesson for anyone from any party running any campaign. When you go Lowest Common Denominator and focus on political capital over the sharing of ideas…well, gee, it may backfire in a big way.
That’s all I really wanted to say. Sorry for showing up late.
How in the Duck did this go from politics, to train victims and retarded babies?…
@singlepoledoublethrow
I am thrilled to have you as company and thank you for the compliment.
“you’ve become the literary equivalent of a guy walking down the street muttering to himself.” LOL, I love that!
I have no problem with TP having and voicing his own opinion, but when someone starts with the name calling and such, that really grinds my gears.
What also gets me is the very reason he came to America in the first place. I will go ahead and assume it was to have a better life for himself, to prosper if you will. And why is that possible here in the land of opportunity? Becasue of our governing system. So now that he has come here, done well for himself, and living a life that prior to coming here would have only been a dream, he rejects our government. “How dare you ask me for some of my money! It’s mine, mine, mine, allllllllll mine.”
Who’s the hypocrite now?
PMP – LOL!!!!
Thank you Dino & Single – that means a lot to me! we CAN all get along! LOL!
@ Indigo. What are you? 12? My family pays more in taxes than all of you put together. I’d be happy to pay more if it went to paying off the debt. But I’m not willing to pay more so Osama and Nancy can buy more votes from the likes of you! So what will end up happening I’ll just have to shelter more of my income offshore and you’ll just lose your job. Don’t you idiots know that the effective tax rate on the rich is constant at 20% it has been for the last 80 years…
Thomas,
Don’t get all worked up over a bunch of recent college grads. We were all there once. When they get out there in the real world with their careers in full force, earning a very good income, with a few children to support, they will get the point! I used to be much more liberal as a young 20 something, but with age our views mature to our circumstances. As you, I definitely do not want Obama/Biden leading our Country, but sometimes our youth still need an education! Maybe if they see our Country suffer for 4 years they will get the point! When I was younger I sounded just like these Dem’s. Just give them time. They have no idea! Screaming & swearing doesn’t work on our on kids! What makes you think it will work on them!
Just let them grow up!
I already hear the response before I post this!
“This is NOT your grandfathers’ Deomcratic party!”
How true!
I agree with you on many things beet. However I do not believe that that she is being used to convey the idea that women are less competent, or are simply brain dead beings who dont belong in politics. and I don’t see anything wrong with these Old men raggin on this young lady, because I simply believe that we are simply appalled that this woman has gotten as far as she has, and frightening possibility that she could very well end up as the next president. Its not only people like Charlie Gibson, but even Katie couric, was sickened by Palin. If I misunderstood what you were saying , I apologize, and please clarify that. But I have absolutely no problem with any American citizen male or female, and of any color, being president. But they must be qualified. I do not believe in extending the Bush administration for 4 to 8 more years, and even worse yet, dumbing it down even further. This woman is never able to answer anything thats she is asked, she doesnt have a plan, and all she does is detract as much as possible into some entirely unrelated SERIES OF TOPICS(not 1, but a series of). She truely said nothing of any value in the Biden/Palin debate, and she simply blathers out verbal diarrhea. I have to say, I’m not particularly content with Obama’s policy, but there is no way in hell that McCain/Palin will be any good for this country. The fact that McCain is a 72 year old multiple cancer patient, who couldnt even stay loyal to his wife(and we want him to be loyal for the country?)., he wants to prolong this ILLEGAL war. [Emphasis on this. The war on Iraq did not go through congress, there was no Geneva convention held. We have no business over there, yet this man is willing to continue causing death and destruction, in the form of “Liberating” them. Whats worse, is that if McCain dies, Sarah Palin will take his place. and when that happens ladies and gentleman, our country is fucked(excuse my language).
Steve…steve…our country is ducked anyway…the question is who can lead the way in pulling it out of the whole created by the current democratic congress and the Clinton presidency that mandated lending to those that didn’t deserve the credit under normal underwriting guidelines. The war in iraq was about resources, plain and simple..they have it and we need it or our society will collapse. So vote democrat and have 4 more years of barney frank, dodd Pelosi and maybe Obama running the country without any opposition. Or vote republican in which case a stalemate will occur and we all will prosper again. Palin is smarter than all of them put together..eloquence does not equal brains. If that was the case then Hollywood would be the mecca for MENSA. look at the relative performance, she went from housewife to governor in 8 years…without any funding or political support. You don’t judge the performance of a stock based on what the price is , need tpo look at where it started and where it is trading currently. Osama would be nowhere if it wasn’t for reverend Wright and his cohorts, the raise has been all political and not at all practical. The guy has done absolutely nothing, yet all the liberals trust him unconditionally. Why?
McCain picked Palin to “pacify” us women who lost Hillary, and that insults me. He wanted our votes. Palin isn’t in the same league with Hillary. There were many more qualified men to hold the title of Vice President, and he past them over. He became “smitten” with her, as most mediocre men and women are becoming. She is just another pretty face that is good at “bashing”. She is also good at chipping away at women’s rights, gay rights, and a variety of endangered species of animals. “Drill, baby, drill”, even if it is right in the middle of the only place left on earth for the endangered polar bear. She can’t even admit that we are the reason for global warming. This woman terrifies me, and I for one will cry if she ever occuppies the Old Executive Office Building (where the VP office lies)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@ Jen from Annapolis. Yeah you are the reason for global warming! stop breathing! you exhale 1.5 lbs of CO2 per day! if there was global warming it would be good! warmer temperatures and wetter climate would mean longer crop growing season, therefore less hunger in the world! Why don’t you educate yourself on the issue before you blindly drink the kool aide from AL Gore. Gore made over 100mm last year from his hedge fund in London from pushing carbon credits! Why don’t you look up the Milankovitch Cycle. CO2 is not a pollutant! it is a nutrient! Plants need it to grow and the waste they emit is OXYGEN!!!! 97% of all CO2 in the atmosphere is released from the oceanic water! Poor polar bear….what about the poor seal that the bear eats? Are you a complete moron? you women lost Hillary? move to NY, you can be with her the leftist despot that she is! they have made over 100mm over the last few years and have donated nothing to charities! only to their foundation! wake up you idiot!
thomas paine, what makes you think the tax rate on the rich has been 20% for the last 80 years?? It’s varied wildly – up to 94% during WW2 and is now 35%
Zoe, that is that stated rate but what is actually collected is at around 20%. Very static, most of the compassionate Hollywood bunch have all of their income protected through offshore corporations and LPs. Also the rates that you are quoting are true but these are top marginal rates, there are many ways to hide income or delay the tax liability. see
http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/61xx/doc6133/03-01-EffectiveTaxRates.pdf scroll to pg 7 of the PDF and look at the effective individual income tax rate
this only goes back to 1979 but you will get the picture…cheers.
Just remember one thing the bigger the Fedzilla gets the less freedom we have.
This isn’t about paying the “fair” share of the tax burden..this is about what is considered fair and about what happens to the taxes collected.
For every dollar in increased tax liability is translated into one dollar less that will go to a charitable cause.
I’m going to vomit! J-nappy is professing her elitest position for the leftist party. “Mediocre men & women”!? Give me a fucking break! You must be so far left that you are falling off of the earth. What about babies rights? (Oh yeah, they are not considered human because your leftist professor told you otherwise). Its your choice to murder your own child. What about my right to acknowledge a marriage between a man and woman only? Is that to narrow-minded for you? I’m sorry that you don’t understand! Your children (or future children) will spell it out! I won’t even comment on the ignorant endangered animal comment. And please, explain to me how the polar bear will be affected by drilling in AK? I’ll bet you can’t be specific! What terrifies me is your Presidential candidate lacking the experience and honesty to lead our Country and you people lacking the intelligence to vote on the substantive issues rather than an articulate fake. He has you fooled!!
I am sure you are so much better than mediocre?! LOL
Thomas, these people need to continue their education!
@Brian. Amen brother! Jnappy must be right out of HS, can’t explain it any other way. Yes, I have called it before…”the right to kill” .Have any of you liberals seen the “partial birth abortion”. Let me describe it to you. The baby’s head and shoulders are completely out of the birth canal. At that point the “doctor” stabs a pair of surgical scisors into the back of the persons neck and cuts the spinal column. Only a sadistic murdering son of the devil’s span could do such a thing. That is what you people are supporting! So noe go and call your mother and thank her that she is anti murder :( and to all of you liberals….if Osama wins on Tuesday..get ready for 20% unemployment rates and a prolonged severe recession for at least 8 yrs…capital is fleeing the country already..Stock market has sold off so much because of his proposed tax increase on capital
@ TP and Brian
Your latest posts insist on indicting “you people” or “you liberals” and so forth — you have assumed that all Obama/Biden supporters are in one narrowly defined political camp, and the fact simply don’t bear that out.
Now, I’m the first to admit that the two candidates in question certainly would be considered classic liberals by many standards. However, their voter base is not. On the personal side I can assure you that several front yards on my block sport Obama/Biden signs right next to signs favoring local Republicans — and I live in a statistically (very) conservative region. From a broader perspective, consider this: the McCain/Palin ticket currently clings to a 2% to 4% lead in McCain’s home state of Arizona, and several of Alaska’s major newspapers have endorsed Obama/Biden as well. We won’t even go into the Colin Powell endorsement, because my hunch is you will dismiss that as a race issue. Of course, I am happy to have that hunch proven wrong! :-)
At any rate, please think again before indiscriminately going off on “you liberals” — either a whole lot of people have become liberals over the past few weeks, or a whole lot of people across the political spectrum have chosen to think outside the proverbial box.
@ TP and Brian
Your latest posts insist on indicting “you people” or “you liberals” and so forth — you have assumed that all Obama/Biden supporters are in one narrowly defined political camp, and the facts simply don’t bear that out.
Now, I’m the first to admit that the two candidates in question certainly would be considered classic liberals by many standards. However, their voter base is not. On the personal side I can assure you that several front yards on my block sport Obama/Biden signs right next to signs favoring local Republicans — and I live in a statistically (very) conservative region. From a broader perspective, consider this: the McCain/Palin ticket currently clings to a 2% to 4% lead in McCain’s home state of Arizona, and several of Alaska’s major newspapers have endorsed Obama/Biden as well. We won’t even go into the Colin Powell endorsement, because my hunch is you will dismiss that as a race issue. Of course, I am happy to have that hunch proven wrong! :-)
At any rate, please think again before indiscriminately going off on “you liberals” — either a whole lot of people have become liberals over the past few weeks, or a whole lot of people across the political spectrum have chosen to think outside the proverbial box.
Oops — got caught editing my own post. My bad.
I was just adressing the people in this blog. And if you are voting for him that makes you a liberal, no matter what you call yourself or whatever you think that you are. Sounds to me like a lot of folk are being easily bribed with the measly $1000 “tax rebate”…old tricks in a new election. Essentially what people are doing is selling their freedoms for a measly 50 cents an hour, as Tito the builder has said. In my town the opposite is true, nothing but McCain signs and I live in one of those Blue states. As the Zen master had said “we’ll see……)
Why would anyone vote for Obama/Biden? please convince me with logic and not emotion. I thought that it would be great to have an african american in the whhite house…Maybe Alan Keys….but this liberal Fascist (did I spell it right this time) combined with Pelosi and Reed (most people have no idea who they are) will have unchecked absolute power and absolute power corrupts.
I think both of your posts pose fair questions. So let’s take them in order.
In your first (most recent) post you are doing what we call “begging the question” — or operating a logical fallacy, or using circular reasoning, depending on your terminology. Check it out:
1. You claim all Obama supporters are liberal.
2. But many Independents, some Republicans, some self-described moderates, and even some self-described conservatives, support Obama.
3. Therefore they must not actually be Independents, Republicans, moderates, or conservatives. They must actually be liberals.
4. Why? Because they support Obama.
When it’s laid out like this, I’m sure you can see the flaw in the argument. It’s a mistake a lot of us make when we are passionate about our argument.
As for the question of why anyone would vote for Obama/Biden, that is a complex question because you’ve used the term “anyone” — you seem like a genuinely bright guy, so you already understand that if several hundred million people vote for any individual, there are probably several hundred million reasons. For instance: two separate Nobel-prize-winning economists — Joseph Stiglitz and Edmund Phelps — recently endorsed Obama because, like Obama, they feel that deregulation has contributed to the current mess. You may disagree, and there are plenty of economists who prefer McCain’s economic plan — but you asked for a logic-driven reason that the Obama/Biden ticket attracts votes, and that is a good example of two people who probably aren’t just voting with their guts. I’m sure there are others.
As for unchecked power, you make an excellent point! Many voters feel that approximately seven of the last eight years were characterized by unchecked power on the Republican side, and that may explain the current trend in the other direction. Since the next President will probably have an opportunity to appoint two, if not three, Supreme Court justices, there is no telling where the checks and balances will fall. (And yup, I know who Pelosi and Reed are.)
I hope you now see, TP, that when you ease off of the nasty invective people take your questions and your arguments seriously. I hope I’ve just made a couple of points you’ll consider taking seriously as well. And again, please think hard about working with stereotypes — for instance, liberalism and fascism are very different things, and there are many different versions of each.
Wow. Thomas Paine, you’re kind of an asshole-ish kind of guy, aren’t you? I’ve been reading through this entire loooong thread, and have been learning just how much of one you seem to so glaringly be. You call so many people here names, your rudeness and smug, asinine attitude knows no bounds. You seem utterly incapable of showing the vaguest form of respect, to ANYone, at all. You are NOTHIng like your namesake. Pathetic.
I just had to put this out here, ’cause reading post after post afgter abusive, rude post from you has literally given me a headache at this point, and SOMEone needs to come up and tell you from the stands exactly how your mean-voiced, narrow-minded and relentlessly rude ass is coming across.
And whoever referred to him as T-Pain. Please, I love T-Pain, and to paraphrase Lloyd Bensen, this guy is no T-Pain.
@ singlepoledoublethrow
You’re just banging your head against the wall with this guy. As I suspected in an early post, and which T.P. has confirmed, he can only think in terms of black or white, no gray areas. None. In his deranged little mind, anyone who votes for Obama is a communist whacko baby killing anti-god blah, blah, blah. You get the picture.
And please don’t forget the fact that global warming is actually really good for us, polar bear extinction is actually good because polar bears eat seals (someone didn’t see Lion King- Circle of life and all), anyone who doesn’t want the Alaskan power-abuser Sarah Palin anywhere near the White House only dislikes her because of the fact that her child has downs syndrome and ours doesn’t (I don’t even know if I am wording this one correctly, because it’s so fucking insane), ruining an animal’s natural environment wont have any negative consequences for said animal, etc. The list can go on and on.
I think this thread is so much like the Billy Goat’s Gruff story, and T.P. is like the troll under the bridge. Any minute now, the troll will appear…
wait for it……
I agree completely with this article. She is an idiot who had to transfer six times between community colleges and unknown colleges to earn a degree in journalism. Palin couldn’t get a job at Goldman, Cravath, McKinsey, Bain, etc. etc., unless as a secretary.
this is the thread that never ends
yes it goes on and on my friends
:) Happy Halloween!
Right back at ya, eyes!
Yeah, I should probably let it go with that last post (which I accidentally sent as Anonymous, something I don’t like when other folks do it). Thanks for bearing with me, Indigo, Dinosaurs, Eyes, et al.
Anyway, hope everyone has a great Halloween evening. This year I’m dressing up as Thomas Paine.
Is there hope for the stupid people?
I am curious, if Palin was educated, would she discontinue believing that dinosaurs existed 6k years ago, and start listening to facts revealed by science that dinosaurs died off about 65million years ago?
Why doesn’t Palin support abortion? Without abortion, I would currently be a daddy for 4 years since age 16, and my life would be a WHOLE lot less pleasant! Not to mention having to pay child support for 18 years because of a stupid mistake teens are going to make.
For being a woman, you would think she’d support women, but nope! of course not, shes too dumb to even support her own gender to win votes!
I am disgustingly turned on by Palin, shes just the type of sociopath that would intentionally prick holes in your condoms so she gets pregnant, has the baby, ditches the man and accepts the child support with a smile on her face, and finds another man.
Would I still do her?
Yes Absolutely, how could I resist?
Please list the “scientific facts” that dinosaurs lived 65 million years ago. everything that science proves shows the planet to be about 50 thousand years old…
Wow! You lefty’s sound like you’re in bed together! TP’s facts piss you off and you gang up on him. Thomas just needs to realize that he’s beating a dead horse! I can obviously tell that most of you (I said most!) on this blog are young progressive liberals who think that the Government is your mama and you still want to hang on to the nipple. As you age, your views will tend to be more conservative because you will realize that it is not just about you! Right now you think that Obama is this cool, hip, tight, fly, whatever term you like. What you don’t realize is that these policies (which is what you should really consider when you vote) are not in line with the mainstream. He is very good at articulating his bullshit and you guys are good at swallowing it! Quit looking for a handout and work to get ahead and prosper. No one owes you shit!
Regarding the dumbass who absolutely should not be a father, your comments confirm this! I learned as a child how babies were made! I’m sorry that you had to kill your child because he/she was inconvenient! What about adoption moron? Do every female a favor and masturbate! You are either fucking stupid or fucking stupid!
To the idiot who thinks Sarah Palin is an idiot,
Do the world a favor the next time you get another women pregnant (you will because you didn’t learn your lesson the first time)and don’t want the child, kill yourself instead. YOU are the one that made the choice to take your pencil out of it’s pocket. If your old enough to drive a car you ought to be familiar with sex education! Your child did not ask to be born and should not be held responsible for your raging hormones and a willing girl. Spare me the drivel of “I was a child” or “I was in love”. I was 16 once and I damn well knew what could happen if I chose to “give it up”. Shame on your parents and the girl’s parents for not teaching you all the value of life. It seems no one wanted to be “inconvenienced”. Instead, they taught you to be irresponsible and selfish. Their biggest disservice to you is that you are now an adult who never learned the responsibility of suffering the consequences for bad decisions. It’s a good thing that the all powerful government can come clean up after us. Heaven forbid we be held accountable for our own actions. Your comments about Gov.Palin show just how immature and sexist you are at the age of 20. Thank you for proving my point.
Look, if McCain had been seriously looking for a competent, capable female VP he would have chosen Kay Bailey Hutchison. She’s been a senator for a long time. She has positions on all issues and keeps up with all issues. She’s intelligent, well spoken, a well seasoned politician. She knows the ins and outs of DC. And I am willing to betcha that she knows what the duties of the VP are. And yes I do expect politicians to be well educated, well bred, and well informed. After all, they hold a very important position. I think Palin was chosen because she’s cute and “aw shucks”. That to me is sexist. She was chosen because that incompetent old fool thought that all women are stupid enough to fall for that and we’ll support any woman thrown at us. Well, sorry. I don’t vote for geezers and I don’t vote for stupid, incompetent women. No one can begin to resolve all the problems this country has. At least Obama will be a speed bump slowing the crash down until someone can come along and seriously resolve this mess. And further more why is my uterus even a political issue? We have more important issues to worry about than squeezing one more crying, sniveling brat into the world. At the rate we’re going, your kids won’t even have a future. So spare me the bullshit. Some woman’s abortion is not my concern. It’s what the rest of us post uterus face in the future. If you were so concerned about human life you’d do something about our health care crisis, our environmental crisis, and these dangerous disastrous wars. All of which are going to affect these fetuses you’re so damn concerned about, at least until they’re born. After that you can’t give a damn less. So shut the hell up.
Oooh another troll has come to guard the bridge! Looks like someone has a crush on T.P…
Chivalry is not dead folks.
Wow. This thread is bananas, and still swinging. All in all excellent points from all.
Palin IS inexperienced. Obama IS inexperienced. Palin in her short national run IS as annoying in her ambiguous round about talking point answers as Obama was with his ambiguous round about talking point answers in the earlier parts of his campaign before Hillary refined him. It’s really talking points (Palin) v platitudes (Obama) but they both mean the same thing–inexperience. Biden IS experienced–and loony. He was also the guy who couldn’t get elected on his own merits, and the guy whose greatest foreign policy idea in modern time was splitting Iraq into tree sections. “Hello 100 year war”–by de facto. McCain is experienced–and loony. He was the guy who also couldn’t get elected at one time, and the guy who wouldn’t mind staying in Iraq for a couple of hundred years– by de jure. People who say McCain picked Palin solely on the basis of her sex fall for the same sexism they accuse McCain of—because they entertained that notion way before they realized she’s inexperienced and continue to think that in the face of her inexperience. McCain strategically chose her BECAUSE of her inexperience or to monopolize on the positive aspects this inexperienced quality brought to the Obama ticket—hope change no Washington ties. None of these people accusing McCain of sexism ironically point out Obama’s ageism when he obviously chose an older running mate because he was old. Here it’s somehow ironically more obvious and easily accepted, Obama picked Bidden because he grounded the ticket with experience or monopolized on the positive aspects this experienced quality brought to the Hillary and McCain campaigns. Finally, it’s so nice to have a conservative admit that the war in Iraq was about resources. What a fresh breath of air. I thought it was about the “central front on terrorism” originally. And, if you took the time out to read al Gore’s book you might have not needed to tell the “liberals” that CO2 comes from many places, and there’s a natural balance for it. It’s just that when it increases like due to heavy industrialization our environment will immediately show it–in fog or acid rains–we hope expanding it to a larger ramification like that GW theory isn’t true but it’s better to be safe then sorry. In balance it’s okay–out of balance, you might not like living in ever increasing warmer weather because no one can grow crops in drought around the equator or in the cold that would descend on the European shelf. Bees for example can’t pollinate crops under certain temperatures and the slightest of temperature changes will impact them if they are to happen. The whole dispute is not over if it would be nice, but if the weather would actually increase that much. And you’ve got some people to fend for that idea in your corner. I’m surprised you didn’t take the polar bears to task more by pointing out that there are more polar bears now then there were several years ago–that’s why Palin objected to listing it as an endangered species. Economically speaking the two platforms have varying degrees of how things work, and their both right. The trickle down effect, or why we should care about the rich who invest, has been largely thrown out by the liberal people until the bailout was introduced by liberals (and conservatives) under the trickle down theory of mainly care about wall st because wall trickles down to main st. The whole mean liberal gov wants to regulate every aspect has been largely discredited by conservatives too until conservatives (like liberals) found this little flaw in how the world works because of wall st—people who are left to their own devices tend to only care about their devices and nothing other than regulation and oversight will change that—even in the face of harming others.
You people should keep this thread going forever. It beats reading stuff on Kate and her eight. I mean I can only take so much of “are you jealous?”
Sarah Palin truly is an idiot, any of those who deny it are idiots themselves. This is fact, do not deny fact, GG.
Kendra did I hit a sensitive spot? LMAO, why so upset, its because you’re a woman right? plz go cry a river in texas, we all know texan brains are dehydrated causing them serious brain injury, which is why they support bush, palin and mccaine. I am not saying that only retards support bush palin and mccaine, I am merely *STATING* that it is very obvious only retards support bush palin and mccaine.
Listen up babe, we know your ugliness and poor attempts to be successful only result in you thinking you’re being underestimated and under appreciated, but don’t think its just because you’re ugly, its because you are an idiot. I am not a mean person, and I am not intentionally insulting you at all right now. I am merely making clearly obvious statements, and when someone begins whining and crying about “oh plz ur sexist blah blah”, they deserve to get put in their place. I work under a woman, I am a programmer, but she has little to no knowledge of coding in any form, she’s just a manager, but shes great in bed and good at her job and I respect her. So don’t go around telling people they are sexist!
Brain Damage + Hot body = Sarah Palin the idiot
Brain Damage + Ugly Body + Insecurity + dehydrated, dry and unused vagina = Kendra
GG bitch, LMAO
Kendra did I hit a sensitive spot? LMAO, why so upset, its because you’re a woman right? plz go cry a river in texas, we all know texan brains are dehydrated causing them serious brain injury, which is why they support bush, palin and mccaine. I am not saying that only retards support bush palin and mccaine, I am merely *STATING* that it is very obvious only retards support bush palin and mccaine.
Listen up babe, we know your ugliness and poor attempts to be successful only result in you thinking you’re being underestimated and under appreciated, but don’t think its just because you’re ugly, its because you are an idiot. I am not a mean person, and I am not intentionally insulting you at all right now. I am merely making clearly obvious statements, and when someone begins whining and crying about “oh plz ur sexist blah blah”, they deserve to get put in their place. I work under a woman, I am a programmer, but she has little to no knowledge of coding in any form, she’s just a manager, but shes great in bed and good at her job and I respect her. So don’t go around telling people they are sexist, clearly if I was sexist I wouldn’t be talking so highly of my boss.
Brain Damage + Hot body = Sarah Palin the idiot
Brain Damage + Ugly Body + Insecurity + dry and unused vag = Kendra
Intellect + common sense + being more intelligent than Palin or Kendra = Evil Beet
GG bitch, LMAO
To Not A Conservative,
McCain deliberately picked Palin which does not take away from KBH. The point which has obviously been missed was to pick someone who could bring a fresh perspective to Washington. Obama is not the only one for “CHANGE”. Clearly the same old game that has been played in Washington is tired. We need new people with new ideas who are not caught up in the BS. To say that Palin was picked because she’s cute is equivalent to Obama being picked because he is black. You clearly don’t like her straight forwardness because you see that as a weakness somehow. I guess you’d rather listen to well rehearsed rhetoric? Please give me reasons as to why McCain is incompetent. Is it because he has devoted his life to serve our country? Was it going to war and then becoming a POW? How is Palin incompetent? Again,give factual reasons not opinions. Last time I checked she is doing what so many women have done and are doing, raising a family and working. In case you forgot, a little court decision known as Roe v. Wade made your uterus a political issue, I didn’t. Since you presume to know about me, I will show you the same courtesy. By your hateful, bitter tone, I suspect you are a selfish lonely psuedo intellectual with an identity crisis who was unwanted by her parent(s). Gloria Steinem is your idol and you have probably had an abortion since you seem to be so defensive about. Asinine enough for you? How do you know that I’m not concerned about health care, the environment and war? Did you ask me? I obviously care about human life or I would not defend the rights of unborn children you seem to think are some kind of amoeba. I love my country, respect The Constitution and the men who designed it. It must be tiring carrying that big chip on your shoulder and exuding such negativity. Here’s an idea, why don’t You shut the hell up.